Madonna herself once sang a song of female
empowerment called "Express Yourself." One would think that
Madonna fans would support a female such as myself who is "expressing
herself" on this site. Madonna maniacs cannot seem to spot hypocrisy,
(1.) Why do you hate Madonna?
here to read answer
(2.) How can you say that Madonna does not have any
talent? She is the "queen of pop"!
She writes her own songs too! Look at all the hit songs she has
had! She's been learning how to play the guitar!
She reinvents herself a lot! She is still in the public eye,
unlike Cyndi Lauper and others from the 1980s!
|(a.) I do not deny that Madonna is mega- famous (or was at one time),
that she has been around a long time, and that yes, she has out
- lasted many other '80s celebrities (I will eventually replace the "longevity" page I once had at the old site; for now, it's unavilable).
That is precisely part of the reason I made the site: she is
over - exposed, I am sick of the media covering every move she
makes, and I do not think she is truly deserving of such attention.
(As of 2007, she's not as over- exposed. As a matter of fact,
the media do not run many stories about her anymore, thankfully.)
(b.) Secondly, I'm not sure that she deserves the title "Queen
Who crowned her that, anyway, her fans? Herself?
I recognize that some journalists use that title, but I think
they do so as a matter of convenience in their writings -- I do
not think it's a consensus among everyday people or the recording
industry that she is in fact the so-called "Queen of Pop."
There are other female pop / rock / r and b singers out there
who have had plenty of #1 or top 10 hits and / or who remain popular
and loved by the public, such as Janet Jackson, Patsy Cline, Whitney
Houston, Donna Summer, Diana Ross, Mariah Carey, Tina Turner,
Cher, Aretha Franklin, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, and others.
Apparently, Aussie pop singer Kylie Minouge is more popular and
has sold more product in Europe than Madonna has.
(c.) Madonna has not written all of her own songs, including
some of her bigger hits of the past that helped to really launch
her career, such as "Material Girl."
Secondly, the credits / liner notes on many of her records indicate
that other people helped her write the songs.
Further, some of the lyrics she writes are just plain stupid.
Read more about that on this page: Madonna's
(d.) In terms of show business career length, Cher is one female
pop singer who has been around as long as (if not longer) than
Madonna and who also has a string of hit songs.
Cher, as of 2003, still remains in the public eye.
Cher was known for changing her image (e.g., experimenting with
different hair styles, clothing, etc.) numerous times over the
years before Madonna ever released her first record in 1983.
Ditto with David Bowie, who serves as the male counterpart to
constantly evolving performers.
Some acts from the 1970s, are, of this writing (2007), still
in the public eye as well, such as U2 and Elton John. Madonna
is not unique regarding longevity.
(e.) Madonna's lauded "reinvention genius" can be attributed
to her thievery, not brains or talent:
she has stolen the images, styles, and fashions of other celebrities.
I do not agree that copy - cat behavior should be praised.
Madonna's copy cat behavior and theft is detailed on other pages
of this site.
You suck! F*ck you! I hate you! Drop dead! Screw you! I bet you're
ugly! I bet you're a red neck! (etc.)
Calm down, she's merely a pop singer
(and a very wealthy one at that), she's not God.
It's not like I am picking on your grandma, either. Don't cry
Madonna is supposedly a self confident, strong woman which is
what is supposed to make her such a great feminist role model,
so I doubt she would have hurt feelings over a site like this.
Therefore, and in addition, I find it hypocritical for a Madonna
fan to act offended, hurt, or angered over criticism of Madonna.
4a. [The angry version]:
You must be pathetic! Don't you have anything better to do with
your time? You are a big loser, get a life!
4b. [The touchie feelie, sappy version]:
I feel sorry for you! Spreading all this hate, how sad! Madonna
sings about love in her songs, don't you know that Love Makes
the World Go 'Round, and you're Frozen because
you're so consumed with Hate and Regret???
|Madonna is a public figure, and she intentionally
says rude and offensive things to gain attention to get her name
in the magazines.
Madonna invites hate and criticism. Madonna
loves it; her career has been built upon it. She courts it. Criticism
and insult directed her way are her trade, they are her bread
If Madonna does not want people picking on her and picking her
every action apart, she either should have
~ avoided fame altogether, or
~ she should have maintained a different persona, one in which
she does not act tough and arrogant, but rather, one that is
respectful towards other people's beliefs and one that does
not overly flaunt sex in concerts, magazines, and concerts.
I have as much right to speak my opinions as Madonna does.
My main reason for creating the site was the release of Madonna's
American Life album and all her comments regarding that
album and its music videos.
As for Madonna's use of "love" as a theme in her songs:
it's only content filler for her, nothing more.
Please do not be so naive as to think Madonna actually believes
in 99% of the crummy lyrics she writes.
5. Don't you have anything positive to say about Madonna?
Nobody is all bad, jeeze! She does give money to charity sometimes!
|I have read that Madonna used to visit sick
children in hospitals. I say, wonderful! I give her kudos for that;
I think it's great.
If she has donated money to charities, that's swell too -- but
can you say "tax write off" and "trying to garner
favorable public opinion"?
I think very few things she does are out of pure altruism, including
I view her kids (Lourdes and Rocco, and later, the adopted ones) as being more p.r. stunts
Attempting to adopt a baby, assisting in the building of orphanages
in Africa: done mostly for free publicity.
It does not matter that Madonna is already world famous: this
woman can never get enough attention.
I have read that Madonna does not abuse drugs or alcohol. Again,
I think that is great too.
~ Except that this month, she was quoted as saying she now likes to go to pubs with current husband Guy Ritchie and
You said on one page at your site that you think that homosexuality
/ lesbianism / bi-sexuality are immoral, but Madonna does not
Well, then, I'm glad, because you obviously are a hate mongering,
homophobic pig, and Madonna is champion of equality, tolerance,
compassion, and understanding!
So in your face, you big prude!
|(a.) I do not think Madonna truly cares
about homosexuals or any of their struggles to gain mainstream acceptance
(which I believe they already have won).
Madonna uses the homosexual community on several levels:
a) to steal their fashion or dance trends
b) to get free publicity
Madonna has homosexuals (and in this group I am including lesbians
and bi-sexuals) in her music videos and so forth in order to create
controversy, since she assumes that most of the American public
will be outraged if she is seen cavorting with homosexuals or
lesbians in her concerts, books, or music videos.
Madonna knows that this controversy will gain her interviews
and other free press.
(b.) I always find it fascinating when "touchie feelie,"
idealist, liberal types run about ranting over catch phrases such
as "tolerance" and evangelizing this concept, since
they themselves generally practice intolerance.
In their world, anyone is allowed to speak up and hold an opinion
and not be branded a hate mongering idiot - unless they are a white,
straight, conservative, male.
No, I do not agree with homosexuality.
This, however, does not mean that I am "afraid of"
(i.e., "homo-phobic") of homosexuals or that I hate
I do not practice or condone violence against homosexuals.
Yes, I have been in situations, such as at a former job, where
I have had to interact with homosexuals, and they were perfectly
nice people, and I was nice to them.
I do not care if homosexuals (and bi-sexuals, lesbians, trans-genders)
are "born that way" or not, as it does not change the
fact that such behavior remains immoral.
What would stop child molesters, bank robbers, and serial killers
if everyone began attributing their immoral, indecent behavior
to DNA, genes, and so on?
At any rate, and in the overall scheme of life, I do not care
what people do in their bedrooms, as long as it involves consenting
adults. So again, spare me the tolerance lectures and hate e-mail.
I do not appreciate having liberals such as Madonna cram their
pro- homosexual agendas down the public's throats, (even though
in her case, it is done for publicity, and not out of genuine
concern for homosexual rights).
Again: I do not advocate violence against homosexuals, nor do
I approve of it. So spare me any hate e-mail and do not bother
trying to "convert" me.
I am just as entitled to my views on homosexuality as Madonna
is to hers, or you are to yours.
But Madonna is a savvy businesswoman / promoter / marketer!
| I have already answered this objection
on another part of the site.
Madonna's supposed business success does not justify her immoral
behavior or words.
1. Yes, Madonna is a 'businesswoman,' but I would not call her
a 'savvy' one. She has made business mistakes.
In spring of 2004, there were news accounts about Madonna's Maverick
record label losing money.
Warner Brothers charges that Madonna's pet label has been losing
money for years now. (See the links
section for more information on this topic- note: as of may 2010, I have temporarly removed the links section and intend on putting it back up later.)
Former "Beatle" George Harrison financed the Sean Penn
and Madonna film Shaghai Surprise, which flopped, largely
because Madonna cannot act, but also because she refused to help
promote the film, and so Harrison was out of some serious money.
Madonna has miscalculated what the public wants in the past (and
as of 2004, she is even miscalculating what her fan base wants,
First she botched her career with her trashy behavior in the 1980s,
culminating in the '90s release of her Sex book, Erotica
album, multiple lovers, and acting vulgar on the Dave Letterman
More recently, Madonna miscalculated the public on her American
She either thought that the controversy surrounding it would
work to her favor, or else, she did not anticipate the backlash
she would receive for being a hypocrite (i.e., lambasting American
capitalism while continuing to purchase high ticket items, such
as mansions and BMW cars)
Madonna also thought that people would want to hear her rap.
As of spring 2004, professional reviewers of her "Reinvention
Tour" have largely concluded that the "new" Madonna
is boring and tepid, and even some of the fans are complaining
that Madonna's tour is too dull and was not what they were expecting.
2. Congratulations on figuring out that Madonna is a businesswoman.
Madonna does not want the public knowing that she is a businesswoman
who is interested in investing and marketing and that she is not
someone who makes records out of genuine love for music (she has
only profits in mind - and fame).
Oddly enough, one Madonna fan at a discussion board tried to
deny this point. He made the lame defense that Madonna is quite
open about her business doings and makes it into part of her "art."
I had to remind him of the time when Madonna would not allow her
director and camera crew to film her in one of her business meetings
during the Truth Or Dare documentary.
3. And as author Ilene Rosenweig in The I Hate Madonna Handbook
It is with reluctance that I have contributed to the already
sagging shelves of Madonna- related product and literature,
and engaged in the debate that always seems to lead to the conversation-
stopping disclaimer: "Madonna, you've got to admit, is
an amazing businesswoman, and she does show young women that
is is possible to be sexual and powerful too." Please.
Women have been making a killing with sexually seductive performances
The origin of the word vamp is vampire; the word bombshell
explains itself. Sexually provocative women entertainers have
long been stigmatized as dangerous destroyers, and Madonna,
with her take- no- prisoners lingerie and boy- toy belligerences,
fits neatly in the unfortunate tradition.
The only difference is she runs her own shop. And in some
parts of town, such a "businesswoman" is not heroicized
as "the future of feminism," but is politely referred
to as Madam. (xi)
Madonna became successful and famous during a time in American
history when women did not have to exchange sexual favors to succeed
in a career, but she did so despite that.
I have a problem with attributing 'success' and other positive
acolodes to someone who has "whored" herself into a
If you have not met Madonna in person, you have no right to criticize
Of course I have a right to criticize
her. I'm living in a nation of people who believe in free speech.
Madonna is a public person. If she were a private citizen, I
probably wouldn't have a site about her.
Madonna chose to be a public figure and therefore to open herself
up to criticism.
I dislike Madonna precisely because of her public stunts, such
the time she simulated oral sex on a water bottle in the film
Truth or Dare;
all the times she grabbed her crotch in her music videos;
being rude to people (as documented in magazine and newspaper
for her arrogrant attitude and comments in magazine interviews;
- many more examples could be cited -
You must secretly like Madonna to expend so much effort on this
site! Either that or you must be jealous of her!
|And I am sure that Jews who make on-line
Holocaust museums must really love Hitler.
I have already explained the reasons why I made this site, and
subconscious love for Madonna ain't one of them:
American Life Release and Her Anti American, Anti Capitalism Hypocrisy
No, I do not 'secretly' like Madonna, nor am I jealous of her.
Your site is nothing but lies! It's based on lies and gossip!
I question the quality or accuracy your sources, too!
I do not need to lie about Madonna since
she makes herself look bad.
Some of my sources are primary sources - that is, my
information about Madonna comes straight from Madonna herself,
that is, from her televised or print interviews, her music videos,
filmed tours, and other public appearances.
I quote from articles taken from reputable sources.
(Sometimes, for fun, I also quote from informal sources, such
as participants at music forums who flame Madonna.)
What I do is search the web for articles which discuss Madonna,
and then I comment on them, not unlike an opinion / editorial
section of a newspaper.
I also have access to old magazine and newspaper clippings.
I do not need to 'lie' about Madonna, since it is widely known,
based upon interviews with former friends and colleagues, that
she is a people-using, immoral, trashy, filthy, shallow jerk.
Sometimes such comments can be found in on-line interviews or
In other cases, Madonna has done disgusting things in public
(such as masturbate during her Blonde Ambition concert tour while
singing Like a Virgin, or simulate oral sex on a water
bottle in her Truth or Dare movie).
Such examples of Madonna's public actions, therefore, cannot
be chalked up to 'inaccurate reporting,' gossip, or jealousy of
slighted ex-lovers or co-workers.
Ironically, some of the news items I link to from my site can
be found at Madonna FAN sites-- that's right, by people who purport
to like Madonna.
Sometimes, Madonna fan sites and Madonna fan boards are the
best places to find a treasure trove of anti- Madonna writing
and the like.
I usually find the material by surfing the web, like google news,
I think the bottom line is that many of Madonna's fans cannot
or will not accept the shortcomings of Madonna.
They want to truly believe that she is a nice, caring person.
They cannot accept that the woman they admire is an egomanic
who walks on people, or uses sex, to keep her career on track.
I have also found information about Madonna from biographies
by various authors. (Lengthy excerpts from some of these biographies
are available from Google Books.)
Have you ever noticed that Madonna fans never question the sources
if the source is praising Madonna and saying how wonderful she
They only seem to doubt the sources I quote from if the source
paints a not-so-flattering portrait of Madonna.
Aren't you afraid that Madonna is going to present you with a
law suit because of this site?
This site has been up since 2003, and it is now 2007 (and as of this FAQ update, 2010).
Although there have been a few fans who have tried to get the
site shut down, Madonna herself and/or her legal team have not
contacted my web site hoster, as far as I know.
There is a lady named Aisha who has far harsher content on her
site about Madonna than I do, and her site is still up and running.
I don't perceive myself (via this site) to be a serious threat
towards Madonna's career or what little exists of her reputation
(I am sorry, but she did herself in with her kinky 'Sex' book
back in '92.).
Madonna could of course sue me all she likes. We are living in
a Litigious World after all.
Here in the U.S.A. I can sue you if I don't like the color of
your hair or the kind of car you drive.
So the question isn't really 'can Madonna sue you,' it's more
of 'would she win a suit,' and I think it unlikely.
I am interested in presenting the truth about Madonna, all of
which is based upon interviews and reports that I have read, or
TV shows I have watched.
Therefore, I do not knowingly or willingly make anything up about
Madonna at my site, contrary to what some of the feeble- minded
Madonna fans who write me believe.
Furthermore, telling the truth is also quite handy for deflecting
"libel" charges, I must say.
I clearly express when something is my opinion and not a fact.
I qualify my statements so that they read, "It is possible
that . . . " or "according to source 'xyz' Madonna said.
. . " or "allegedly Madonna..." and that kind of
Aside from out- of- print books, all the material at my site
can be found in search engines.
All I do is collect all the links to news items in one location:
If Madonna does not like that, she would have to sue every person
running every site that makes mention of her, including Madonna
fan sites, and all such sites featuring her would be removed.
That would be unthinkinable to someone who is as addicted to
fame and publicity as Madonna is.
Additionally, at least in the United States, the law is more
lenient, so to speak, in terms of permitting criticism of a public
figure, such as Madonna, verses a private citizen.
Madonna has criticized American president George W. Bush and
singer Sinead O'Connor.
Madonna is using her rights of free speech to speak out against
famous individuals, and so am I.
Last but not least, I am a 'nobody.'
I am not famous and I do not appear on nationally broadcasted
This is a small, private site where I can vent. I seriously doubt
that Madonna herself would ever come across this site.
Even if Madonna were to look at it, she would be delighted.
As we all know from her past behavior, Madonna is a media whore,
so that she would absolutely adore this site. In her view, I would think, negative
attention is better than none.
Oh, by the way: this is not the only anti Madonna site on the
web. It's one of the few, true enough, but it's not the only one.
There are also many negative comments by other people about Madonna
scattered all over the web, at various blogs and discussion boards
that I have nothing to do with.
You seem to be sympathethic towards those who are conservative
and who hold Judeo-Christian beliefs.
Aren't you afraid this will alienate some site visitors who
otherwise may agree with you about Madonna?
Shouldn't you remove any vestiges of moral outrage and the like
from your site?
(a.) I hate it when I have to state the
obvious: this is my site.
I will place whatever I please
on my site.
If you are a liberal, or if you are an agnostic, atheist, or
secular humanist who hates Madonna and who is unhappy with my
conservative stance, then I would advise you to make your own
anti-Madonna site instead of telling me what kind of tone or content
mine "should" (or should not) contain.
(b.) Secondly, the primary reason this site was made, as is stated
in several conspicuous places, is because of Madonna's anti Americanism
and her hypocrisy concerning capitalism.
The main catalyst for this site had nothing to do with sexual
morés and sacrilege. I have made this more than clear on
However, I find that some critics (ones whom I suspect of having
sympathies for Madonna), who are unhappy with my conservative
leanings, use my stance against pornography, lesbianism, and homosexuality
in order to conveniently dismiss the entire site out of hand.
This factor, as far as I am concerned, reveals their narrow mindedness
and is a cheap (and lazy) way out of dealing with anti-Madonna
On another note, I freely and fully admit to objecting to Madonna
for other reasons not having to do with American patriotism or
a free market economy. No where on my site have I hidden that
(see answer "c" below for more on this).
As far as these other issues are concerned (the ones not dealing
with patriotism or capitalism) that I discuss at the site, they
do not all revolve around issues such as homosexuality or that
of liberal celebrities misusing their fame to preach the liberal
For example, as I demonstrate on my site, Madonna is not original
(visit the various pages in the "Unoriginal" section
of the site); she is forever stealing music, styles, looks, and
fashions from other performers, all of which is not commendable.
Madonna does this far more than any other entertainer who readily
comes to mind.
(c.) As for any who may write me, (as one person has done on
several occasions), stating that my Flea Dip (as it was once called) site is not so much
"anti-Madonna" as it is a rant against liberalism, immorality,
and secularism, I have to offer you a great big "Well duh!"
Aren't there, you ask, other celebrities (or even non-celebrities)
who engage in or defend liberalism, hedonism, and immorality?
Why, yes, of course there are, and I have not made any web sites
The reason why I dislike Madonna as much as I do and have made
a site about her is that she embodies and epitomizes the profane,
sacreligious, phoniness and shallowness more so than the rest.
Her anti American comments of this year  were merely the last straw.
So it stands to reason that of course I am using this site to
speak out against various vices and immoral behavior-- ones which
Madonna preaches, practices, and promotes.
Therefore, I am really not sure how stating the obvious (i.e.,
"you must be a conservative and that's one of the reasons
Madonna ticks you off!") is supposed to negate the site or
the points I make.
I strongly dislike Madonna precisely because she tends to side with liberal views, she has shown herself to be
immoral, dishonest, and an arrogant bimbo (which is why most others
do not like her, either), among other reasons.
However, it was Madonna's anti- Americanism which drove me to
finally make an anti Madonna web site.
Madonna serves as a good example of what is wrong with (post)
modern society today, so I will use her to those ends if I wish
to do so.
I am not a liberal, a humanist, an atheist or an agnostic.
On this site, I have chosen not only to speak out against Madonna's
betrayal of her home country, but also her contribution to the
decay of traditional values and morality:
I do not make apologies for this, nor do I hide it or disguise
You make fun of Madonna for looking like an old hag. Oh yeah,
well what do you look like?!
|I could be the ugliest person in the world,
and it wouldn't change the fact that Madonna is a hypocrite, trollop,
egomaniac, and that she has ripped off creative ideas from many musicians and actresses over the years.
(Update: I eventually removed the photos of myself from the site.)